--- title: "The Conversation Around Surcharging Has Shifted – #78 - CCSalesPro" description: The recent legal opinion overturning Oklahoma’s no-surcharge law leaves just 4 states with laws banning surcharges. Jonathan Razi, Founder & CEO of CardX and a Harvard-trained attorney, explains the implications. Plus James offers additional insights for creating Killer Phone Scripts.   Listen on SoundCloud — Listen on iTunes — Listen on Stitcher — Listen on […] image: https://www.ccsalespro.com/hubfs/Imported_Blog_Media/merchant_sales_podcast-May-04-2023-05-42-05-0859-PM.png --- Podcast # The Conversation Around Surcharging Has Shifted – #78 The recent legal opinion overturning Oklahoma’s no-surcharge law leaves just 4 states with laws banning surcharges. Jonathan Razi, Founder & CEO of CardX and a Harvard-trained attorney, explains the implications. Plus James offers additional insights for creating Killer Phone Scripts. Listen on SoundCloud — Listen on iTunes — Listen on Stitcher — Listen on […] [ James Shepherd ](https://www.ccsalespro.com/podcast/author/james-shepherd) Jan 24, 2020 --- ![](https://www.ccsalespro.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Imported_Blog_Media/Merchant-Services-podcast-full-horizontal-small-May-04-2023-05-42-06-1488-PM.png?width=600&height=152&name=Merchant-Services-podcast-full-horizontal-small-May-04-2023-05-42-06-1488-PM.png) The recent legal opinion overturning Oklahoma’s no-surcharge law leaves just 4 states with laws banning surcharges. Jonathan Razi, Founder & CEO of CardX and a Harvard-trained attorney, explains the implications. 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